Intelligent Design contradicted by strange fish
Mikey 8 comments
An evolutionary missing like in a flatfish claims to cast aside any credibility to the concept of 'intelligent design'.
"CT scans of 50-million-year-old fossils have revealed an intermediate species between primitive flatfishes (with eyes on both sides of their heads) and the modern, lopsided versions, which include sole, flounder, and halibut."
I'm sure certain members of the community will have their own versions of why this particular fish evolved the way it has, even if they don't require any actual scientific research or foundation of logic. 'God did it' just doesn't cut it I'm afraid.
Kim OJ
Monday 21st July 2008 | 09:05 PM...in response to this comment by C. David Parsons. The very fact that it begins with an ad hominem attack on Darwinism undermines any scientific credibility it would try to establish.
Rodney
Monday 21st July 2008 | 10:26 PM...in response to this comment by C. David Parsons. That is the worst website I have seen in a long time. It says, using HTML from the mid-nineties, absolutely nothing at all about the content of the books and provides no examples of the content whatsoever.
I also note the advertised target market is primarily "home-schooled" kids in the South of the US.
Jamie
Tuesday 22nd July 2008 | 12:08 AMDavid,
This notion that electrons "rotate" so fast around the nucleus, that this has to be supernatural is the weakest point of your argument, ask yourself: WHY IS THIS SO??
The universe is massive in size - to the point we struggle to comphend the vast distances involved. We struggle as humans to get out heads around the concept of infinity and yet we accept that this is a legitimate construct. We accept that thousands of home computers make millions of calculations per minute every minute of every day and we are comfortable with the idea that a flight from Australia to Europe takes less than 20 hours these days (try telling that to James Cook, I reckon you'd blow him away!).
A dog or a cat is unable to comprehend the notion that it will one day die, and yet it does,we know this and accept this as inevitable, the limitations of the human mind constantly crop up when we delve into ideas of quantum physics and concepts like infinity, time or the begining of the universe itself. But we try because we are curious creatres by nature - so my challenge, if your up to it, is to question your belief in God. Instead of assuming that there is a God who created all that is and then trying to distrort the facts to suit this premise, be critical, don't take these headdy issues lightly and see where this takes you.
However, if reality scares you too much, if the notion that we as people are so small and insignificant in the vast scheme of things and our very existence so precarious - thats cool, tell yourself there is a god and live out your life in the shade. There's nothing wrong with that if this makes you feel better. Just dont go peddling your doctrines - with the bad ninety's HTML onto others, like they say... "isn't it enough to see the garden is beautiful, rather then having to believe that there are also fairys living at the bottom of it."
...in response to this comment by Jamie. Jamie,
It is a fact that the electron is directly adhered to the nucleus via mutual electrostatic attraction. Rutherford and Bohr's architecture has fell flat on its face. After all, these two were delving into the mysteries of the atom in a scientific void. This has changed. For the facts, read The Quest for Right. http://questforright.com
Jake
Tuesday 22nd July 2008 | 07:24 AMThis whole attempt by evolutionary science to systemically bitch-slap the creationist argument is a little childish, if you ask me. In my very humble opinion it is neither relivant nor will it ever actually make any difference to their belief.
The creationist believes what it believes because, unlike the evolutionary biologist, all it needs is it's theological reasoning and claims everything as 'proof'.
e.g. Evolutionary biologist: "Wow, what a beautiful morning. The sun is shining, the clouds are light and whispy and the air is crisp and cool"
Creationist: "Yep, sure is. God placed the earth precicely in this orbit around the sun and gave it the perfect velocity of rotation to ensure adequate density of the atmosphere and seasonal change right across the globe. God also ensured that placement of the highest mountains to deepest valleys and oceans propotionately cool and heat the atmosphere to apply appropriate atmospheric displacement allowing for cloud formation and wind. This is of course only possible beacuse God produced an adequate density of trees on his earth to produce enough O2 and diffuse the CO2 and Methane that our organic life produces through respiration in the most perfect form of symbiosis".
EB: "Have you ever considered that it is perfection now because of billions of years of formation and evolution?"
C: "Nope, the bible said it was god. Oh, and Jesus said I should kill you for not following his way".
Bob Dobalina
Friday 25th July 2008 | 07:03 AMIntelligent design is a farce
Jake
Friday 25th July 2008 | 07:07 AM...in response to this comment by Bob Dobalina. So is genetically modified canolla.
C. David Parsons
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