Boxing controversy: Did Briggs throw the fight 29 seconds in?
Mikey 30 comments
For those who don't know, I love boxing. I was even an amateur kick-boxer myself back in the day, but those days are long behind me and watching said sport is now one of my favourite (safer) pastimes.
So like many other boxing aficionados last night I was keen to watch the much hyped Green vs Briggs fight (which was relocated to my home town here in Perth), and then stunned to see Briggs throw the fight a mere 29 seconds into the first round. Wow.
Watch the video for yourself (and the chaos that ensues) and see just how bad it was.
Notice Green (in the black trunks) jab Briggs to the body 11 seconds in, the only real punch of the fight. And then notice Briggs' (red trunks) slow reaction to block. This is significant because fighters work in milliseconds, and Briggs almost looked as if he forgot he had just been jabbed. I'm not sure if this indicates anything wrong with Briggs, but it sure is odd.
The second punch thrown by Green which barely connected with Briggs, and instead grazed over his head and caught a little of his back on the return. In boxing terms that's practically a complete miss, no connection no damage, and certainly something that any first year boxer would take in their stride. Yet Briggs who I can only imagine must have suddenly became worried, decided to take that as a warning by promptly falling to the canvas clutching his face and appearing stunned. In soccer we call this 'diving'.
Briggs was taken straight to the hospital with his trainer saying that he 'didn't know what hit him'. Neither does anybody else.
Briggs' reaction would be expected for someone who had just received a hook to the face, but when the punch doesn't even connect you have wonder what's going on.
It's the opinion of most sports commentators that Briggs just chucked it in, but nobody knows why.
All we do know is all those patrons paid to see a much anticipated fight and sponsors paid insane money for what they thought would be great exposure of their branding, but and all anyone got was a 29 second inexplicable farce.
What do you think? Did he throw the fight? Pass out? Maybe Danny Green is so fast we just didn't see something :-)
Rodney
Thursday 22nd July 2010 | 06:37 PMOn the news today they said hundreds of bets were placed just before the fight on a 1st round knock out - some in excess of $20k.
Betting agencies are now refusing to pay out until it's been investigated.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/betting-agencies-wary-after-green-fight-20100722-10me2.html
Tony Fyler
Thursday 22nd July 2010 | 06:47 PMWellllll alrighty then - that does add a shady dimension, at least to the appearance of things.
...in response to this comment by Tony Fyler. Maybe he had money riding on Green :-)
TVBIZ(BOB)
Thursday 22nd July 2010 | 07:31 PMI don't think you would throw a fight that quickly. Any one would know it was fixed if you did.
You don't need a blow to the side of the jaw to make you unstable. Anywhere about your head can make you disorientated if the hitting pressure is enough. His head did jolt if you watch the video carefully.
If he did throw the fight then he is a fool, if he was just unlucky then I'll give him the benefit of a doubt.
gilly
Thursday 22nd July 2010 | 10:56 PMNice little earner
Briggs couldnt even make his weight
Briggs was three kilos over the division weight limit. What kind of person wouldnt put money up against a fighter who couldnt lose the required 3 kilos in 6 weeks, who wouldnt expect a first round KO
What kind of Champion would put his title on the line to a fighter 3 kilos over the weight limit if he thought he was fit
again your all deluded
Jake Farr-Wharton
Friday 23rd July 2010 | 06:51 AMThere aren't a lot of fighters willing to fight Greene because he is an incredible cobination boxer, pretty well unmatched when he was younger.
It certainly looks like Briggs either fainted or threw in the towel. It could well be that Briggs just wasn't in shape (forget about the weight, talking about cardiovascular fitness) and he stressed out his system and it shut down.
You can train in a gym all you like, but no amount of bag traning prepares you for what happens when you get in the ring.
Tony Fyler
Friday 23rd July 2010 | 06:56 AMlol that would be cos the bag doesn't punch back...right? Still and all...29 seconds...
gilly
Friday 23rd July 2010 | 08:49 AMCardiovascular?
mentally he didnt have the drive or desire
He had no chance of winning the Title because of his weight
Briggs had clearly lost interest, combine that with his earlier psychological issues and a first round KO was a just about given
Nobody in their right mind would throw a fight within the first 30 seconds, surely two minutes would be the least amount of stand up time in the ring to keep the bookies of your tail
The Boxing industry is known for its shadow men and Bookies hate to get stung
I wouldnt want to be Briggs if he suddenly appeared flush with funds
Still 29 seconds Its a good question
My money was on a first round KO
Gina
Friday 23rd July 2010 | 06:07 PMIt's my personal opinion that most, if not all, sports are rigged (and maybe even the players themselves don't know it) because of the money riding on them w/ betting.
T-Mac
Monday 26th July 2010 | 05:37 AMThat was lame
I think he intende to throw it but not at that point
he walked into an exploratory punch unexpectedly and decided to take that opportunity to throw it while he was down
weaker than circus lemonade
these shenanigans are why mma is appealing
T-Mac
Monday 26th July 2010 | 05:39 AMGina
what is it that formed your opinion about sports?
Papa
Monday 26th July 2010 | 07:53 AMThat was ridiculous. Seems like if he was going to throw the fight, he would have made it more convincing that falling over that quickly. That being said I bet he passed out or drank too much the night before, or knew he was going to get his ass handed to him so he sat down.
I've got my clocked clean a few times in Krav Maga, and anyone can see that punch didn't have anything to do with why he sat down, what so ever.
Gina
Monday 26th July 2010 | 08:59 AM...in response to this comment by T-Mac. Hi T-Mac,
Why do you ask?
T-Mac
Monday 26th July 2010 | 09:10 AMGina
just curious & I'm a sports fan
papa
whatever dude, I train 3-5 x weekly and compete a few x a year and have been hit as well
just my educated opinion but I haven't seen a better explanation
Gina
Monday 26th July 2010 | 09:15 AM...in response to this comment by T-Mac. Yeah, I figured you were.
The reason I believe that is because people are extremely gullible and very easily deceived, and like I said there's a boat load of money riding on those games. I'm mainly talking about pro sports, not the little leagues, although I'm sure they've got their own problems from time to time.
I hope that answers your question. I will not be taking anymore questions on this topic. I hope you understand.
T-Mac
Monday 26th July 2010 | 09:37 AMGina-
thx for ur response, there is often a lot money at stake and some people see what they want to see but that doesn't mean everything is rigged or even a large percentage. It would be extrodinarily difficult in team sports with fanatical educated (on the sport) fans but in the individual sports it is more common. It's notorious in boxing at all levels and I have observed it to lesser degree's at local mma events.
That being said sports often bring out the best in people and events are mostly what they appear
it's too bad your appreciation for competition has been tainted sports are wonderful for many
try a Olympic level wrestling meet or NCAA baseball,the money isn't a factor and the competitors are there for love of the game
sports are one of Gods greatest gifts to us
Gina
Monday 26th July 2010 | 09:45 AM...in response to this comment by T-Mac. Sports do not bring out the best in people. And no, sports are not one of God's greatest gifts.
God, where do these people come up with this schtuff?
T-Mac
Monday 26th July 2010 | 10:51 AMGina
Wow sorry to light you up
I've witnessed sports bringing out the best in people, (and the worst) but I choose to focus on the positive. Sorry you don't appreciate them as well ... Just sharin a different perspective.
Sports have blessed me and my family in many ways fitness, teamwork, leadership, work ethic, sportsmanship, health among other things
while these things can be learned and developed in many venues sports has been natural for me and mine
are those things important to you?
If so how have you developed them?
Gina
Monday 26th July 2010 | 12:05 PMI'm glad for you and your family, T-Mac. But again, I'm talking about competitive pro sports. Certainly not all sports are competitive and not every sport brings out the worst in people. You didn't light me up. I just can't stand it when people make statements about things that aren't true. Forgive me this offense.
Henk V
Monday 26th July 2010 | 07:19 PMpffft... Mama bear.. you are astoundingly gullible... an internet naturopath no less... fuck off with your dumb expressions of knowledge, you make Luke of the NT look like inrelligetsia
what was sickening was the trivialising of the recently deceased... you truly are a dumb fuck...
How dare you comment on gullibility here?
Henk V
Monday 26th July 2010 | 07:32 PMI suppose that anyone who believes in bullshit that has been proven to be bullshit by american tax payers (11 billion dollars) then its easy to belive in bullshit that everyone accepts to be total bullshit (by its practitioners)..
frankly, handing out bullshit as a knowing person to people who are suffering from a known medical disease is bullshit, reprehensible bullshit..
and I spew those forth..
frankly, i dont care if you were a clerk in a psychiatrists office, its still bullshit to hand out pseudo medical advice over the net.
Me? yep, i have gone through the process and i have seen a few naturopathic suicides.. havent met a medical suicide yet.. but I do not have the experience of a medico and i certainly would not be handing out... NATUROPATHIC BULLSHIT.. to a person on the net..
Cough up the most gullible Gina, trivialiser of the sick...
Sorry, just pathetic..
T-Mac
Monday 26th July 2010 | 07:45 PMThanks Gina,
The point of sports is competition, not everyone responds to competition and I understand that.
RustyLime has been interesting so far
Gina
Monday 26th July 2010 | 10:12 PM...in response to this comment by T-Mac. I agree, competition doesn't bring the best in everyone; especially since not every one has a good support system when they lose.
Not all sports are competitive. I just googled "non-competitive sports" and got "About 4,460,000 results (0.26 seconds)."
Before I forget: You do not focus on the positive. Six comments into the Lime you mentioned Friendo's JFC comment, not once by approximately three times, not that I blame you. And now you're focusing on my comments about sports which are anything but positive.
T-Mac
Tuesday 27th July 2010 | 10:49 AMGuess I would call most non competitive sports exercise
for example : swimming laps - exercise , swimming in a race - sport
I wouldn't call it focusing when he uses that phrase so conversationally
Noticing the elephant in the corner isn't really focusing, is it?
Besides I figured you'd cut it short, you didn't want any more questions on this topic, remember.;-)
T-Mac
Tuesday 27th July 2010 | 10:49 AMGuess I would call most non competitive sports exercise
for example : swimming laps - exercise , swimming in a race - sport
I wouldn't call it focusing when he uses that phrase so conversationally
Noticing the elephant in the corner isn't really focusing, is it?
Besides I figured you'd cut it short, you didn't want any more questions on this topic, remember.;-)
Gina
Tuesday 27th July 2010 | 11:12 AMT-Mac, look over all your questions after your first one and tell me which ones I responded to...
T-Mac
Tuesday 27th July 2010 | 11:15 AMTouche'
Gina
Tuesday 27th July 2010 | 11:19 AMHi Everybody
Never mind Henk. We all know how he swears by his Doctor prescribed Valium, and as we can all see, it's not really working. :P
Tony Fyler
Thursday 22nd July 2010 | 06:27 PMWow...that..well, that looked a bit pathetic, to be honest. I mean, we don't know, maybe something was ruptured inside the poor man (although simply as an observer, it didn't look that hard a punch)...Hmm...certainly a bit weird...maybe the days to come will uncover what the hell really happened.