Women torture 5 year old boy
Mikey 17 comments
USA: Police in Los Angeles have arrested a lesbian woman and her lover for torturing her 5 year old son.
The food deprived boy, who has countless cigarette burns and to his body and genitals is fighting for his life, and can't open his hands because they were forced into a hot stove top. Police say the boy was also regularly beaten and forced to sit in his own urine. Department Chief James McDonnell said:
"In my time in policing in 27 years, I have never seen anybody with these kinds of injuries that has lived. And this kid must have a tremendous will to live to be able to still hang on despite what he's been through."
If you didn't believe in the death penalty, you surely could now. In fact I personally wouldn't mind being the one to flip the switch if I were given the opportunity. As far as I'm concerned, both these woman have absolutely no rights. They forfeited them the moment they started torturing a 5 year old boy, and for that, I can only hope that if they do receive the death penalty, that it is slow and painful, just so they can have at least a small taste of what they put the boy through.
sebastian stephenson
Sunday 22nd June 2008 | 04:27 PMI am speechless this just makes me just... angry is all I can say its just why WHY?????!!!!
...in response to this comment by Gina Squitieri. I'm more interested in seeing low lives like this wiped from the face of our planet.
They wouldn't last 5 minutes in jail anyway, and I am a big supporter of not bothering with rehabilitation with these sorts of criminals (https://rustylime.com/show_article.php?id=847). Why should the public have to pay to keep them alive?
Do I think they would feel sorry for what they did? I can't say, and I wouldn't make any difference to how I feel about them.
Gina Squitieri
Sunday 22nd June 2008 | 06:03 PM...in response to this comment by Mikey. Thanks for your honesty.
Ben
Sunday 22nd June 2008 | 06:36 PMI buy that argument. These people are just as bad as pedophiles. Anyone who could commit such an act on a defenseless child deserves a life worse than prison. I also agree that these types of people are beyond rehab. I mean where would you start?
Whereisthelove
Sunday 22nd June 2008 | 06:58 PMThe death penalty is an easy way out for these two evil people, anyways they will get a good mouthpiece to say they were abused as children themselves and had a bad upbringing and get a community service order. And - yes I am cynical.
Why did no one else notice what was going on?
The U.S. needs more lawyers.
Gina Squitieri
Sunday 22nd June 2008 | 09:47 PM...in response to this comment by Whereisthelove. That's not cynical -- that's realistic. Sorta like my hippy freak friends used to say during the demonstration days in San Fran, "Hey, man, this isn't paranoia, this is real fear!"
But saying they could never be rehabilitated, well, certainly not by this or any other judicial system on God's green earth. When I look at them knowing what they've done, I feel it's okay to admit to you all that I don't care what happens to them in prison and knowing they'll get what they deserve (and you know what I mean), though I hate violence, makes me feel validated.
Problem now is, the child... who is going to take care of that child? Will he be stuck in foster care where's he's likely to get rammed up the butt by a pedophile?
The other thing is, that source is from www.WorldNetDaily.net... One of THE most fundamental Christian (anti-gay?) websites, ever, and here California's just passed the gay-marriage bill/law/whatever you call it, and so now perhaps thing will only get more interesting as far as that goes. Who wants to wager a bet?
The U.S. needs more lawyers like the President and Co. need another red herring or "funny monkey." Could this be just another red herring?
Jake
Monday 23rd June 2008 | 07:01 AM...in response to this comment by Gina Squitieri. Sorry Gina, with the reference to the comment on the anti gay publication, are you suggesting that this publication has made it sound much worse because of their sexuality?
This crime is terrible.
Mike, I agree, I don't think that these guys are even worthy of rehabilitation. It makes no sense to keep them alive any longer than it takes to convict them.
Unfortunately, many of these things that the child has endured will turn into behaviors that he will thrust on his kids and their kids etc. The cycle never stops. It is just so horrible what some people go through!
Gina Squitieri
Monday 23rd June 2008 | 07:21 AM...in response to this comment by Jake. Now you're over-generalizing, Jake, to say that it is foreseeable that this kid will abuse his kids. You're assuming waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much.
And, yes, that's what I'm suggesting.
Gary
Monday 23rd June 2008 | 12:41 PMHorrid story, plus the mothers name was Starkeisha Brown. No need to take your first name out on your kid.
Debra
Monday 23rd June 2008 | 05:31 PMJust about the time you are beginning to feel like you have made some progress in elevating your own personal ethics - along comes something stupefying in its malevolence. Then the most base thoughts emerge and you think you would like these incarnates of evil to suffer in the most horrific manner possible for the acts they perpetrated upon an innocent little child.
I don't believe the justice system is set up to protect the rights of the victims - criminals have more rights than victims. I think people who commit crimes against children and incompetents should be stripped of ALL rights automatically. One can only hope for some real justice for these two despicable women - except I don't believe there is justice that exists for these heinous acts...
Gina, I disagree that Jake generalized too much about people perpetuating victimization they experienced. I worked at a mental health facility where each patient suffering from psychosis and personality disorders were no longer able to function in society had suffered from neglect, mental, physical or sexual abuse or combinations thereof. Many of these patients would be released only to victimize others in the same ways they had been victimized as children and young adults. A vicious cycle. These were only a handful of people from a small community. They were only the ones "so far gone" that they could easily be detected and efforts made to confine them for their own safety or the safety of others. I also operated the crisis line and would tell you that so many abusers go undetected in society and/or have terrorized their victims into silence.
It would be a miracle if this child does survive his physical injuries and begin what will probably be a lifelong journey to heal emotionally. Unfortunately, without a miracle, this little boy will probably, as Gina stated, be placed into a malfunctioning foster parent/family program and his situation may not improve as nearly much as he would need...
Gina Squitieri
Monday 23rd June 2008 | 09:54 PMSorry, Debra, but I don't see how you've never met anyone who was abused by a parent and yet never abused their own children, so allow me to introduce my mother... oh, wait, she's not around. It happens, yes. Is it a sure and definite thing that it will happen? With everyone who has ever been abused? No. First, I never said that Jake was over-generalizing for the entire populace that's ever been abused, only as far as this particular boy, in this particular article. What if doesn't want them? What if he can't? I mean, he had burns all over his genitals. How bad was the damage inflicted? What other damage did those women do to his genitals? Anyway, I wasn't trying to start anything. Just saying it's an over-generalization. Heck, if it was automatic that people always did as their parents did to them, Jake would be indoctrinating his kids the way he was indoctrinated. Ya know?
Debra
Tuesday 24th June 2008 | 12:00 AM...in response to this comment by Gina Squitieri. Gina,
I have met quite a few people who have been abused and have recovered significantly, some apparently all the way - that is such a difficult call. Abuse is extremely tough to overcome. There are a lot of other ways the "old" abuse manifests itself - not just repeating the exact same thing. Manifestation of abuse occurs in a myriad of ways such as fearfulness, need to control, swinging the opposite direction and not disciplining, inability to effectively sustain relationships, dissassociative disorders, PTSD, etc. The kinds of things people would not automatically associate with a person having been abused but rather attribute to someone's personality. So many degrees of abuse and so many degrees of recovery...
I see now that you were referring to this kid in particular and I did miss that - sorry.
I also was referring to mental health patients (which would exclude much of the population) - the more extreme cases which I feel this small boy falls into.
I still do not think Jake generalized too much - just going on education, work experience and personal observation on that one - my opinion.
Never said anything about it being "automatic that people always did as their parents did to them" as I don't believe that is true. We would be in quite a mess if that were the case... One can hope each generation will try to change for the better regardless of how they were raised.
-Deb
Debra
Tuesday 24th June 2008 | 11:18 AM...in response to this comment by Gina Squitieri. Oh yeah, Gina, I am always open to correction and I enjoy your comments. Didn't think you were trying to start anything. I enjoy the exchange!
Gina Squitieri
Tuesday 24th June 2008 | 01:05 PM...in response to this comment by Debra. I'm open to correction too. Got any for me?
Debra
Tuesday 24th June 2008 | 02:27 PM...in response to this comment by Gina Squitieri. Nope, not from me! :-)
Gina Squitieri
Wednesday 25th June 2008 | 10:53 AM...in response to this comment by Debra. lol (Phhhhhhhhhew... really dodged a bullet on that one!)
Gina Squitieri
Sunday 22nd June 2008 | 04:09 PMWhat I'm hearing, you're wanting the perpetrators to not get an easy death, but one that will cause they to think about what they did? Do you think when it's all said and done they'll feel sorry for what they've done?